Re: Teleology etc.

From: Kenneth Van Oost (
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    > Hi Chris,
    > You wrote,
    > > Sorry, I'm the culprit for introducing that into the discussion.
    > > How would this 100th monkey story differ from the blue tits and milk
    > bottle
    > > thingy? These notions becoming a part of the collective consciousness,
    > wrong > as they may be, are fair game in this forum. Frans de Waal talks
    > about the
    > > 100th monkey stuff in his book _The Ape and the Sushi Master_ (2001,
    > > Books, New York). What is it about these ideas that is so appealing?
    > << How can you be so sure that those stories are wrong !?
    > You have no prove that a mecanism drives the birds and the monkeys
    > or not !
    > It is still a mystery, all the reasoning is highly hypothetical.
    > It is IMO not a " prove" that a nearby scientific application says it has
    > to be wrong because its prove shows it that way, that it is wrong !! The
    > prove it will have is just circumstancial.
    > It must be proven, either way !!
    > And maybe further investigation into what makes those ideas so appea-
    > ling will turn out to be the tenet of what memetics is all about !!
    > Regards,
    > Kenneth

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