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> >The hundredth monkey syndrome will probably be the next
> >thing Ted attributes to morphogenetic fields (along with the
> >disappearance of Amelia Earhardt and the kidnapping of the
> >Lindbergh baby...;~).
> Don't mistake morphogenetic fields for morphic resonance or formative
> causation. Sheldrake IIRC even makes the distinction of *morphic*
> fields. As Ted has pointed out morphogenetic fields are a conceptual
> direction pursued by others besides Sheldrake, such as Brian Goodwin.
> Not having read much lately about MF's I can't say a whole lot, except
> that they are not necessarily connected with Sheldrake's ideas, common
> misattributions beside the point.
Yeah, I meant morphic resonance in the joke post...I have ordered
two of Brian Goodwin's books - HOW THE LEOPARD CHANGED
ITS SPOTS and SIGNS OF LIFE. He works out of the Santa Fe
Institute, which is itself a good credential, and I think he might be
applying complexity theory to some of the morphic regularities
noted in D'aecy Thompson's ON GROWTH AND FORM - but I'll
find out when they arrive.
> IIRC Koestler referred to MF's as an ontogenetic holon. I've toyed
> with Ernst Mayr's notion of a somatic program, myself, however far
> removed that may / may not be from the MF.
> For some perspective there are embryonic regions which are referred to
> as eye fields and limb fields, without any connection to MR.
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