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Hi Wade and Philip. You treaded on :
> >how do you account for the
> >existence of the world?
> Is evolution, as a process, applicable to the universe universally? I
> Personally, I have no problem seeing it as a process of life, but, I
> don't see the same connection with the other materials of this realm,
> which can't really be said to replicate.
This is one of the questions I most often think about, since I was
acquainted to A.G.Cairns-Smith's hypothesis called the 'takeover' theory.
He introduces a previous replicator consisting of clay cristals (clay and
other mineral cristals as a self-replicating code, rivers and pool systems
as entities...) This replicator would have acted as a scaffolding to the
self reproducing organic architecture, without which the complete 'arch' of
the protein macro-molecules could not have spontaneously emerged (or not so
Assuming that DNA (and with it the whole bio realm) is one piece in a chain
of successive replicators, preceeded by clay (what poetic inspiration for
primitive men!) and followed by memes (which I reckon could stabilize in the
form of neural nets, but I'm open to any better view) there is only one step
to imagining that such a chain must have its origins somewhere.
This hypothesis of mine is clearly represented on a sketch that I have
posted here : http://www.contagions.com/whiteboard/
If you wish to post back any drawing, sent it to email@example.com
I would really appreciate your opinions.
- Can you imagine how many more takovers there could have been from the big
bang to the 'genetic takeover' ?
- Can you think of any mythological scheme that could fit with such a view ?
- Did you notice that in each takeover, the 'lead' is taken over by what was
formerly created as a tool by the older realm, to project itself into the
future ? (We animals might have been created by 'mother' earth as tools to
shape her into her future...)
- Can you figure out what sort of takeover could happen after the one we are
experiencing now (DNA --> meme) ?
- Can you ever piss in a river again ?
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