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Dawkins' 'The Blind Watchmaker' takes this as its central idea, that
creationists assume the evolution requires a designer, requires someone to
set the process going. He refutes it ably and in a lot of detail.
I'm curious here, are you suggesting that creationism is more plausible that
evolution, or simply that a mechanistic description of evolution is no more
plausible than creationism?
What view of evolution, in your view, is plausible?
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> Subject: Re: Logic
> Philip Jonkers wrote:
> > Do you mean to imply that humans are intrinsically logical?
> > Well, what about the superstitious beliefs still infecting
> > countless minds even today as Pascal noted (take horoscopes
> > and religions/cults for instance).
> Logic is only as good as its assumptions. If we assume that famine and
> sickness are caused by "black magic" and, further, that a headless chicken
> will invariably point to the individual responsible for this curse, then
> story Pacal describes is perfectly logical. Of course, the evidence won't
> always support the assumptions. If the headless chicken fails to expose
> guilty individual, or if the famine continues even after such exposure,
> the villagers must abandon their assumption. Their failure to do so is
> explained according to a meme.
> Pascal noted that the "logic meme" has been promoted by "cartesian,
> thought." This is indeed not logic itself but a meme posing as logic,
> seeks to justify the proclamations of mechanistic science by labeling them
> Ironically, within the context of mechanistic philosophy, Creationism is
> more logical than neo-Darwinism. If organisms are actually machines, as
> Descartes proposed, then it follows that the species were designed and
> by a mechanic. The mechanic, of course, is God. Evolutionary theory is
> recognition that the species are not the products of external forces but
> in some sense spontaneous self-creations. The logical effect of this
> recognition should have been the abandonment of the notion that an
> is a kind of machine. But logic gave way to the persistence of
> thinking. Neo-Darwinian theory is the attempt to keep the machine while
> ditching the mechanic. That this inherently illogical approach has
> for 150 years now is testimony to the power of memes.
> Ted Dace
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