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From: Chris Taylor <Christopher.Taylor@man.ac.uk>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: Music !!
Is it not just that the complexity (both in parts and over time) of
classical music requires more 'space' than throwaway stuff. Imagine you
were somehow trying to represent the music in dance - the classical
would require more space and dancers (probably) than the pop.
<< I know what you mean here, Chris and I do understand your point
of view, but than again, the same argument can be applied here.
Why does classical music need more space than other stuff !?
I know you don 't imply that the other stuff is not at the quality hights of
classical music, but making such assumptions could lead to misunder-
if you are severely reduced in brain function, you have less free space
in your mind, so classical just passes you by, while you can still
become engaged with pop. This effect could also be about modelling and
predictability (much of our motivation for listening to music) - to
model/predict pop takes much less effort (the possible variants are
limited). This could also explain why all the stuff I listen to (Floyd,
Zep etc. - the 'dinosaurs') doesn't appeal as widely (although I'm open
to other reasons on that one...).
<< Yes, but Floyd and Zep are not so much as throwaway stuff, though !!
They are quite sophisticated if you are willing to listen to them.
Stairway to heaven ( Zep) and the CD 's, The Wall and The Dark Side
Of The Moon, both by Floyd are not that easy to appreciate, in the music
sense of the word. It demands more of the listener than of one who listens,
to Boom- Boom music, like Prince Charles put it.
Although, some of that throwaway stuff got quite a sophisticated beat,...
And, Chris, the top 3 of the Timeless Top 100 exist out
1_ Bohemian Rhapsody of Queen
2_ Stairway to heaven of Led Zeppelin
3_ Child in Time of Deep Purple
All 3, in a sense a mixture of classical and pop.
How would we explain this in regard to what Persaud tells us !?
The more intellectual stuff needed to appreciate classical music is here
complete out of the picture, because those records are made for the
youngsters, not specially for the upperclasses or for the bourgeois,...
Ps, the info about Qumran and the rest will follow shortly.
(I am, because we are)
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