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Please do not jump to the conclusion that suicide rates are high at all
elite US universities: you will find MIT and Harvard may be the current
exceptions. Among the other top half-dozen universities, Duke's and
Stanford's are negligeable. Don't know about Yale and Princeton. Also you
may wish to look at the sizes of the student population, and at non-elite
universities, and indeed at that age-bracket, generally. Given the
statistical reality that random events cluster, there may be a lot less to
this than initially meets the eye.
Having drawn those cautions, as competitive performance-oriented societies
one might not be too surprised to find higher suicide rates generally in the
US and Japan. What other countries might we characterize as
performance-oriented? Israel? Singapore?
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> Suicide-rates high at USA's elite universities. Interesting stuff
> again Wade. I know of no suicide cases here in Holland. Perhaps
> the pressure to achieve is just set too high at elite US universities.
> As a result of exposure to too high expectations these stresses
> may have generated motives to commit suicide.
> The memetical properties to make them successful memes, fidelity
> and fecundity, may have increased further once suicides
> actually started to occur. A frightful doomsday scenario.
> I wonder though how elite universities at other nations fare.
> Anybody any suggestions or info?
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