Re: The Guardian on Information

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Date: Sat Jun 23 2001 - 20:04:45 BST

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    > On 22 Jun 2001, at 20:48, Robin Faichney wrote:
    > > On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 10:28:33AM -0400, Wade T.Smith wrote:
    > > > On 06/21/01 14:53, Robin Faichney said this-
    > > Think "structure". Information theory in physics is the treatment of
    > > structure as an element in itself.
    Hi Joe,
    You wrote,
    > What is necessary is matter and energy in pattern, structure or
    > configuration. Awarenesses become informed concerning such
    > patterns, structures or configurations, and their attributes, via
    > perception and/or cognition. Information cannot precede
    > awareness, for it is necessary for an awareness to become
    > informed concerning a configuration, for information, a
    > communication of configuration to an awareness via perception, to
    > exist.

    << Wouldn 't it than not be better to use ' experience ' instead of
    information or structure !?
    Experience includes a sort of information which precedes awareness.
    If we take Nature as an example, before we ever existed Nature experien-
    ced a great deal. That is indeed no information as you suggested because
    it is indeed necessary that anyone did observed it.
    Awareness, IMO, seems to come ' after ' experience.
    First experience than awareness through the trial and error of that



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