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On 06/22/01 15:48, Robin Faichney said this-
>Think "structure". Information theory in physics is the treatment of
>structure as an element in itself.
Structure is _still_ a product of _process_.
The shape of a termite mound, a snowflake- the only 'information' or
'structure' required is the determinants of the process.
Time and material were required to arrive at this process, but the only
information there or anywhere else is the invention of an observing
entity, namely us.
Perhaps it's semantics. But even asking 'structure' to be required seems
erroneous to me.
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