RE: La memetique a-t-elle change votre vie / Has memetics changed your life ?

From: Vincent Campbell (v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk)
Date: Mon Jun 18 2001 - 12:36:39 BST

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    Hi Pascal,

    Apologies for my pathetic efforts at french in my anwser to your message to
    me. As I said there, try Angela Ryan, she's the fluent one. I know Bourdieu
    in translation. Your English is good, so don't worry about that.

    Anyway, in answer to your question- I must admit to having had a bit of,
    well an epiphany I suppose, when reading Blackmore's book. I'd heard of
    memes before, although I don't remember where I heard it first (I know it
    wasn't Dawkins), but reading Blackmore's ideas about the self being a
    memeplex was really thought-provoking. I've probably back-tracked
    significantly since then in terms of the personal impact of memetics on me,
    almost entirely due to the debates on this list (and a bit due to reading
    others on the subject like Brodie and Lynch). It was probably Derek
    Gatherer's article in the journal about the the problem with the
    virus/contagion metaphor that that has been the clincher so far in making me
    more skeptical.
    I now feel about memetics the same way I do about UFOs- it would be really
    nice if it were true, but there are problems that have yet to be
    successfully resolved IMHO.

    Vincent

    > ----------
    > From: Pascal Jouxtel
    > Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 9:00 am
    > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > Subject: La memetique a-t-elle change votre vie / Has memetics
    > changed your life ?
    >
    > Hello, friends.
    >
    > My name is Pascal. I am a french memeticist (are their any others ?). I
    > try
    > to write as good an english as I can, but if any of you are
    > french-speaking,
    > (as I have noticed Vincent is, on the Bourdieu issue), they might
    > occasionnally help me convey some subtleties. The job I live on (since I
    > am
    > not a university researcher) is consulting for large companies, and
    > especially fostering mass cultural and behavioral changes. But this is not
    > today's issue.
    >
    > I would like to make a quick survey among people interested in memetics.
    > If
    > you care to give a short answer, this will allow me to make the question
    > more precise.
    >
    > My hypothesis is that once you start thinking memetics, your world view
    > cannot be the same anymore. If you follow Susan Blackmore's reasoning,
    > your
    > idea of the self is changed. If you follow Richard Brodie (Hi, Richard if
    > you are reading this) it even can lead you to a further development of
    > your
    > personality.
    > You probably have noticed that most authors on the subject end their books
    > by a very dizzying 'facing-mirrors-like' reflexion about 'how we are going
    > to live, now that we know '.
    >
    > So to come to the point, my question is :
    >
    > 'Since you started to know about memetics, how has your inner life changed
    > ?
    > Do you behave differently ? Do you relate to others differently ? Do you
    > practice 'weeding' ?'
    >
    > Thank you for any contributions.
    > Pascal
    > A bientot sur / see you soon on
    > www.contagions.com (french memetics website)
    > Tell your friends / parlez-en vos amis
    >
    >
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    >

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