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Apologies for my pathetic efforts at french in my anwser to your message to
me. As I said there, try Angela Ryan, she's the fluent one. I know Bourdieu
in translation. Your English is good, so don't worry about that.
Anyway, in answer to your question- I must admit to having had a bit of,
well an epiphany I suppose, when reading Blackmore's book. I'd heard of
memes before, although I don't remember where I heard it first (I know it
wasn't Dawkins), but reading Blackmore's ideas about the self being a
memeplex was really thought-provoking. I've probably back-tracked
significantly since then in terms of the personal impact of memetics on me,
almost entirely due to the debates on this list (and a bit due to reading
others on the subject like Brodie and Lynch). It was probably Derek
Gatherer's article in the journal about the the problem with the
virus/contagion metaphor that that has been the clincher so far in making me
I now feel about memetics the same way I do about UFOs- it would be really
nice if it were true, but there are problems that have yet to be
successfully resolved IMHO.
> From: Pascal Jouxtel
> Reply To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 9:00 am
> To: email@example.com
> Subject: La memetique a-t-elle change votre vie / Has memetics
> changed your life ?
> Hello, friends.
> My name is Pascal. I am a french memeticist (are their any others ?). I
> to write as good an english as I can, but if any of you are
> (as I have noticed Vincent is, on the Bourdieu issue), they might
> occasionnally help me convey some subtleties. The job I live on (since I
> not a university researcher) is consulting for large companies, and
> especially fostering mass cultural and behavioral changes. But this is not
> today's issue.
> I would like to make a quick survey among people interested in memetics.
> you care to give a short answer, this will allow me to make the question
> more precise.
> My hypothesis is that once you start thinking memetics, your world view
> cannot be the same anymore. If you follow Susan Blackmore's reasoning,
> idea of the self is changed. If you follow Richard Brodie (Hi, Richard if
> you are reading this) it even can lead you to a further development of
> You probably have noticed that most authors on the subject end their books
> by a very dizzying 'facing-mirrors-like' reflexion about 'how we are going
> to live, now that we know '.
> So to come to the point, my question is :
> 'Since you started to know about memetics, how has your inner life changed
> Do you behave differently ? Do you relate to others differently ? Do you
> practice 'weeding' ?'
> Thank you for any contributions.
> A bientot sur / see you soon on
> www.contagions.com (french memetics website)
> Tell your friends / parlez-en à vos amis
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