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'Let them eat cake' is an early sound-bite, a political slogan, perhaps
constructed after the events, but goes along with others like 'no taxation
These surely persist due to continued persistent effort from proselytizers.
In the Antoinette example, over the 200 years or so, it's truthfulness and
origin have become blurred/forgotten by most.
How long will it be before songs from 'Evita' are misremembered as real
quotes from Eva Peron?
Reminds me of the 'Red Dwarf' joke news report about finding the first page
of the Bible that reads 'The contents of this book are fictitious, and any
resemblance between characters within it and actual persons is entirely
> From: Wade T.Smith
> Reply To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:57 pm
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> Subject: Re: LSE lecture on memes - meme posse?
> On 06/11/01 13:35, Robin Faichney said this-
> >Which leaves you looking like something of memetic victim, doesn't
> >it Wade? :-)
> Never said I was a history buff. Ain't we all memetic victims?
> Besides, I was only answering your question. If asked what I, personally,
> thought about Marie Antoinette, I'd have said I didn't know enough.
> 'Cause I don't.
> The attitude of the aristocracy is embodied in that statement 'let them
> eat cake' and Marie was a poster-child for the pouffed set, yes?
> Like I said, I was only answering your question, which was, 'why is that
> meme so successful?' It is successful because it feeds the righteous
> anger against the ruling class.
> Which is something we understand on this side of the pond.
> - Wade
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