Re: Information

From: Robin Faichney (
Date: Wed May 16 2001 - 10:30:28 BST

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    On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 01:17:37PM -0500, wrote:
    > >
    > Robin's pseudodefinition of information as a mere pattern bereft of
    > either meaning or any awareness of it by a consciousness to
    > whom it could mean anything, like his benighted and empirically
    > contrafactual insistence that top-down and bottom-up (that is,
    > vertical) causation cannot exist, but that both horizontal causation
    > and its frankenstein bastard offspring with the to-him-nonexistent
    > vertical causation, namely 'diagonal' causation, does, is simply
    > another thread in his skein of anti-self and anti-world attempts to
    > buddhize memetics - which poses the question of how the 'illusory'
    > he can possibly consider 'intrinsic' information to exist in a mayic
    > and illusory world, or how he could pose any questions if he lacks
    > a self as source for them, or how he can voice them or tap them
    > out if his (for Robin nonexistent) dynamically recursive emergent
    > self cannot exercise executive decisional control over his
    > subsequent actions doing so.

    Take Joe's word for it, or look at the website and make up your own
    mind, or just forget it -- the choice is your's.

    Robin Faichney
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