Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id NAA03269 (8.6.9/5.3[ref firstname.lastname@example.org] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from email@example.com); Wed, 16 May 2001 13:47:04 +0100 Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 12:09:31 +0100 To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: Re: Information Message-ID: <20010516120931.A324@ii01.org> References: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3101745E93@inchna.stir.ac.uk>; <20010515183055.A901@ii01.org> <3B012C71.13992.14E3FF@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <3B012C71.13992.14E3FF@localhost>; from email@example.com on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 01:17:37PM -0500 From: Robin Faichney <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sender: email@example.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 01:17:37PM -0500, email@example.com wrote:
> Robin's pseudodefinition of information as a mere pattern bereft of
> either meaning or any awareness of it by a consciousness to
> whom it could mean anything, like his benighted and empirically
> contrafactual insistence that top-down and bottom-up (that is,
> vertical) causation cannot exist, but that both horizontal causation
> and its frankenstein bastard offspring with the to-him-nonexistent
> vertical causation, namely 'diagonal' causation, does, is simply
> another thread in his skein of anti-self and anti-world attempts to
> buddhize memetics - which poses the question of how the 'illusory'
> he can possibly consider 'intrinsic' information to exist in a mayic
> and illusory world, or how he could pose any questions if he lacks
> a self as source for them, or how he can voice them or tap them
> out if his (for Robin nonexistent) dynamically recursive emergent
> self cannot exercise executive decisional control over his
> subsequent actions doing so.
Given Joe's peculiar attitude to me and my views, I think it makes
most sense for me to disengage from disputation with him, so I won't be
responding to anything from him on this list, at least for a while.
-- Robin Faichney Get your Meta-Information from http://www.ii01.org (CAUTION: contains philosophy, may cause heads to spin)
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