Re: Information

From: Robin Faichney (
Date: Mon May 14 2001 - 19:45:52 BST

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    On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 09:17:18PM -0500, wrote:
    > On 9 May 2001, at 10:26, Robin Faichney wrote:
    > > Can you explain how, using "the unknowable", Frieden and colleagues
    > > were able to derive physical laws to the satisfaction of physics
    > > journal reviewers?
    > >
    > > Personally, I suspect that what's critical is *amounts* of
    > > information, so they only need a single figure for J in any particular
    > > system, the number of bits.
    > >
    > > You have Frieden's book, don't you, Joe? Can you confirm that?
    > >
    > friedan does not need to calculate the incalculable in order to
    > compare it with the calculable; he merely needs to derive the
    > parameters of the different fuzzinesses, beneath which
    > heisenbergian constraints will not allow is to fix measurement more
    > precisely; it is from the specific characters of these fuzzinesses,
    > and the ruiles governing their mathematical description, that
    > particular laws emerge. And yes, I own the book.

    Maybe you need to look at it again, then, in order to answer the simple
    question: is J the *amount* of "intrinsic" information or not?

    (Please note the quote marks there, and try not to throw another wobbly.)

    Robin Faichney
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