Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id TAA16999 (8.6.9/5.3[ref email@example.com] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from firstname.lastname@example.org); Mon, 14 May 2001 19:51:10 +0100 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 19:45:52 +0100 To: email@example.com Subject: Re: Information Message-ID: <20010514194552.B534@ii01.org> References: <3AF7FF80.106.3BDEF5@localhost>; <20010509102633.B480@ii01.org> <3AFC56DE.2154.121A2FA@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <3AFC56DE.2154.121A2FA@localhost>; from firstname.lastname@example.org on Fri, May 11, 2001 at 09:17:18PM -0500 From: Robin Faichney <email@example.com> Sender: firstname.lastname@example.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: email@example.com
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 09:17:18PM -0500, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
> On 9 May 2001, at 10:26, Robin Faichney wrote:
> > Can you explain how, using "the unknowable", Frieden and colleagues
> > were able to derive physical laws to the satisfaction of physics
> > journal reviewers?
> > Personally, I suspect that what's critical is *amounts* of
> > information, so they only need a single figure for J in any particular
> > system, the number of bits.
> > You have Frieden's book, don't you, Joe? Can you confirm that?
> friedan does not need to calculate the incalculable in order to
> compare it with the calculable; he merely needs to derive the
> parameters of the different fuzzinesses, beneath which
> heisenbergian constraints will not allow is to fix measurement more
> precisely; it is from the specific characters of these fuzzinesses,
> and the ruiles governing their mathematical description, that
> particular laws emerge. And yes, I own the book.
Maybe you need to look at it again, then, in order to answer the simple
question: is J the *amount* of "intrinsic" information or not?
(Please note the quote marks there, and try not to throw another wobbly.)
-- Robin Faichney Get your Meta-Information from http://www.ii01.org (CAUTION: contains philosophy, may cause heads to spin)
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