Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id XAA27074 (8.6.9/5.3[ref email@example.com] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from firstname.lastname@example.org); Sat, 5 May 2001 23:47:22 +0100 Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 13:33:40 +0100 To: email@example.com Subject: Re: Information Message-ID: <20010505133340.B1058@ii01.org> References: <3AF06BF1.14540.6C1D26@localhost>; <20010503183340.A1419@ii01.org> <3AF2D280.1640.7E145E@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <3AF2D280.1640.7E145E@localhost>; from firstname.lastname@example.org on Fri, May 04, 2001 at 04:02:08PM -0500 From: Robin Faichney <email@example.com> Sender: firstname.lastname@example.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: email@example.com
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 04:02:08PM -0500, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
> On 3 May 2001, at 18:33, Robin Faichney wrote:
> > More generally, in thermodynamics, material structure is considered as
> > information, and is inversely proportional to entropy. If you want to
> > argue with that, I suggest you seek out an appropriate forum -- but I
> > doubt you'll convince many physicists to adopt your view.
> Except the physicist John A. Wheeler, who is quoted approvingly
> at both the beginning and the end of Friedan's book. I repeat the
> quote for your benefit:
> All things physical are information-theoretic in origin and this is
> a participatory universe...Observer participation gives rise to
> information, and information gives rise to physics.
> Apparently, Friedan, Wheeler and Heisenberg, as physicists, all
> understood the phenomenological lesson you, as a wannabe
> philosopher, have yet to learn.
I'm sorry, but that quote seems to me to support my position. Perhaps
you'd be good enough to explain?
-- Robin Faichney Get your Meta-Information from http://www.ii01.org (CAUTION: contains philosophy, may cause heads to spin)
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