Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id SAA16892 (8.6.9/5.3[ref firstname.lastname@example.org] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from email@example.com); Tue, 1 May 2001 18:18:08 +0100 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 17:53:04 +0100 To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: Re: Information Message-ID: <20010501175304.A1297@ii01.org> References: <3AEC4F40.28311.1B15A3@localhost>; <20010430140506.B978@ii01.org> <3AED8233.15786.6E25AE@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <3AED8233.15786.6E25AE@localhost>; from email@example.com on Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 03:18:11PM -0500 From: Robin Faichney <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sender: email@example.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 03:18:11PM -0500, email@example.com wrote:
> On 30 Apr 2001, at 14:05, Robin Faichney wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 05:28:32PM -0500, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
> > > On 29 Apr 2001, at 13:13, Robin Faichney wrote: > > > where the
> > topic of interest > > is the relationship between mind and matter, it
> > seems important to me > > to incorporate the latter, which I do by
> > using "information" as the > > concept is used in physics, and
> > differentiating that from the more > > common concept by prepending
> > "physical", thus: "physical information". > > This is material
> > structure. > > > All information is encoded in some physical
> > substrate, so your > addition of "material" is redundant.
> > Not so. Physical information, being material structure, is unencoded.
> > This distinguishes it from intentional information which is, as you
> > say, encoded in physical information.
> No, the isolated and nonrelational structure just sits there,
> informing no one. It becomes information when it informs
> someone. You are confusing pattern or configuration with
> information, which must be ameanable to informing.
"Information" is a word that, like every other word, can be used any way
anyone wants to use it. I choose to use it in a way that's consistent
with modern practice in general, and its use in physics in particular,
while very clearly distinguishing between such technical use ("physical
information"), and the ordinary concept ("intentional information").
Your silliness has exhausted my patience for now, so don't expect any
more responses from me in the near future.
-- Robin Faichney Get your Meta-Information from http://www.ii01.org (CAUTION: contains philosophy, may cause heads to spin)
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