Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id OAA13766 (8.6.9/5.3[ref email@example.com] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from firstname.lastname@example.org); Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:24:46 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:20:45 +0100 To: email@example.com Subject: Re: memes and SOP Message-ID: <20010430142045.A1473@ii01.org> References: <3AED4AE9.AD958354@carrollsweb.com> <NEBBKOADILIOKGDJLPMACENHCCAA.firstname.lastname@example.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <NEBBKOADILIOKGDJLPMACENHCCAA.email@example.com>; from firstname.lastname@example.org on Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 07:25:46AM -0400 From: Robin Faichney <email@example.com> Sender: firstname.lastname@example.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: email@example.com
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 07:25:46AM -0400, Lawrence DeBivort wrote:
> Good morning,
> Each of your items may be SOP, but other than #3 it is not clear to me why
> the rest would be memes. A meme is a linguistic or behavioral practice that
> embodies a belief...
> Only if the procedure disseminates a
> belief can it be considered memetic. (There will be some on this list who
> consider that if it only disseminates behavior it it memetic, but I
> distinguish between this and what I consider "real" memes.)
Be warned that Lawrence's belief requirement is highly idiosyncratic,
and that of replicating behaviour -- even though some see the "seed"
of that behaviour in the mind/brain as being the actual meme -- is much
-- Robin Faichney Get your Meta-Information from http://www.ii01.org (CAUTION: contains philosophy, may cause heads to spin)
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