Re: memes and SOP

From: Robin Faichney (
Date: Mon Apr 30 2001 - 14:20:45 BST

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    On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 07:25:46AM -0400, Lawrence DeBivort wrote:
    > Good morning,
    > Each of your items may be SOP, but other than #3 it is not clear to me why
    > the rest would be memes. A meme is a linguistic or behavioral practice that
    > embodies a belief...
    > Only if the procedure disseminates a
    > belief can it be considered memetic. (There will be some on this list who
    > consider that if it only disseminates behavior it it memetic, but I
    > distinguish between this and what I consider "real" memes.)

    Be warned that Lawrence's belief requirement is highly idiosyncratic,
    and that of replicating behaviour -- even though some see the "seed"
    of that behaviour in the mind/brain as being the actual meme -- is much
    more common.

    Robin Faichney
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