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I suspect it's also to do with profound problems of trying to measure these
attitudinal environments, especially since public opinion as a concept, and
polling as a research tool are highly problematic (despite being used
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> on 4/25/01 7:07 AM, Vincent Campbell at email@example.com wrote:
> > ... b)
> > there are entire industries engaged in persuasive communication already
> > despite the money paid to them by clients, have absolutely no way of
> > predetermining the effectiveness of their efforts, and when they are
> > successful its largely nothing to do with them, and everything to do
> > the attitudes of those they're trying to persuade).
> It's really quite amazing isn't it?
> Taken collectively, those attitudes are the environment in which these
> little meme thingys must survive. But memeticists give almost zero
> attention to them.
> Why? I suspect because it would seem to diminish the power of these
> making them seem less like self-propelled vehicles of mentation.
> BB, the curmudgeon
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