Re: Is Suicide Contagious? A Case Study in Applied Memetics ( Lon gDraft)

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    Hi Vincent, you wrote,

    > Well, these comments reflect a central concern in media teaching at the
    > moment- the status of contemporary media standards, and the conflict
    > the public interest, and what the public are interested in (always seen as
    > distinct things that aren't particularly compatible).

    << Couldn 't it not be that what the media standards are concerned that
    the double standard of the public plays a far more greater roll than we
    expect !?
    After all, the conflict between the public interest and what the public
    really wants aren 't particularly compatible like you rightly write, but are
    in fact
    in contradiction which eachother.

    Where on the one hand a program like ' Telefacts ' ( Belgium) let us see
    how youngsters deal with things like sex, drugs, pregnacy, alcohol, AIDS,
    nudity,.. and where the response of the public concerned ( the parents) is
    in a measure highly irrational ( Not my daughter, she won 't) and on the
    other hand where a program like ' Jambers ' ( Belgium) let us enjoy the
    story of 4 young nymphomaniacs, the response of the public is quite the
    opposite, ( Ah, well, it is her life)...

    I suspect that in a sense people in general are more attracted to what
    is forbidden; to what they really want but can 't get for some reason;
    those forbidden desires and wishes where Freud was so fond of, you
    know !
    In a way watching nymphomaniacs comes to meet some hidden desires,
    ( and is not a perversity) but watching girls doing it with 10 or more guys
    in a disco knowing that your little girl is of the same age and went out
    dancing, is something else.
    Doing nothing would be like being indifferent to own children wouldn 't
    it, and society would see your attitude as a ' perversity '...

    In a way this comes to meet my doubts concerning the bounderies of
    public right and private right.
    Nowadays, they overlap eachother, where the one ends we don 't see
    actually the beginning of the other and in a sense where the media has
    to forfill its role in supplying information and entertainment, it can 't
    grasp that boundery which runs through ours societies.
    The media is balancing on a thin blue line between what happens private
    in a home and what is concerned as public politicy.
    Here, IMO, you have once again the contradiction between individual
    and collective, and for that matter, that same contradiction, a split
    actually is inbedded in us.
    I believe I said this before, I always get that gut feeling that we dangle,
    that we are fluctuating in and out the distiction collectiveness/
    and back again.

    What your last paragraph is concerned, I agree with your argument
    that it is very difficult to constitute legitimate forms of representation
    of certain social problems and in a way I comment this in the above.

    Thanks for reading,


    ( I am, because we are) people

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