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You're right here Robin, it wasn't necessarily the best choice of phrase-
without qualification anyway. It's that old point that beliefs don't have
to be "true" and Gods don't have to exist to have effects and consequences.
In that sense gods are still entities whether or not they really exist (in
the material sense of something you could, as the monkey king did in
'Journey to the West', pee on. In his case he thought it was one of the
five pillars at the end of the universe, only to find out it was Bhudda's
fingers, and for his arrogance he was imprisoned under a mountain. at least
that's what happened in the TV version).
> From: Robin Faichney
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> Subject: Re: Darwinizing Culture: The Status of Memetics as a Science
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 02:06:55PM +0100, Vincent Campbell wrote:
> > <Religion is typically about following after entities which possibly
> > don't
> > > even exist. Memetics could be in the same ballpark, but I wonder if
> > > means memetics too is dangerous and insiduous.>
> > >
> > Indeed, indeed. This is I think what some ignore, others embrace,
> > and some of us worry about constantly.
> I think that in some cases at least, an entity must be considered to
> exist, for some purposes, and not to do so, for others.
> Don't those who feel strongly against that proposition need to find very
> clear definitions of "entity" and "existence"?
> Robin Faichney
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