Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id KAA13375 (8.6.9/5.3[ref firstname.lastname@example.org] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from email@example.com); Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:12:03 +0100 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:15:42 +0100 To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: Re: Levels of explanation (was Re: Determinism) Message-ID: <20010419091542.B715@ii01.org> References: <20010418181933.AAA11503@email@example.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010418181933.AAA11503@firstname.lastname@example.org>; from email@example.com on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 02:19:15PM -0400 From: Robin Faichney <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sender: email@example.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 02:19:15PM -0400, Wade T.Smith wrote:
> On 04/18/01 13:15, Robin Faichney said this-
> >> What is being translated and into what language?
> >Genetics, when you get to a certain level of detail, requires the language
> >of chemistry, rather than that of biology (biochemistry, microbiology,
> >whatever -- you get the idea). Similar translations are required
> >whenever we shift between levels of explanation. It's the different
> >concepts that apply within them that distinguish between levels.
> So, are you saying that at such extreme levels, (perspectives), we also
> shift views about causes?
Causes and effects go together, with explanations linking them. For a
complete explanation, either cause and effect have to be on the same
level (eg using the concepts and terminology of chemistry, or those of
biology, but not both), or a complete "translation" between levels has
to be provided. But bear in mind that phenomena on different levels are
not entirely separate things, but the same things considered widely --
at a high level, covering a lot of ground but not going into detail -- or
narrowly, at a low level, going into detail but not covering much ground.
So in shifting levels we're not going to decide that an event had some
other cause altogether, but just change our view of the same cause,
looking at it in more or less detail.
> Which leads me to wonder what _you_ think the difference is "between
> causation and conceptual framework translation"?
I hope the previous paragraph throws some light on that.
-- Robin Faichney Get your Meta-Information from http://www.ii01.org (CAUTION: contains philosophy, may cause heads to spin)
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