Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id KAA13368 (8.6.9/5.3[ref firstname.lastname@example.org] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from email@example.com); Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:12:01 +0100 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:59:26 +0100 To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: Re: Levels of explanation (was Re: Determinism) Message-ID: <20010419085926.A715@ii01.org> References: <20010418125013.AAA28726@email@example.com>; <20010418181520.A598@ii01.org> <3ADD9D05.18383.14151C@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <3ADD9D05.18383.14151C@localhost>; from firstname.lastname@example.org on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 01:56:21PM -0500 From: Robin Faichney <email@example.com> Sender: firstname.lastname@example.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: email@example.com
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 01:56:21PM -0500, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
> On 18 Apr 2001, at 18:15, Robin Faichney wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 08:49:55AM -0400, Wade T.Smith wrote:
> > > On 04/18/01 05:52, Robin Faichney said this-
> > >
> > > >"we have to distinguish
> > > >between causation and conceptual framework translation"
> > >
> > > OK, I know that's your manifesto at the moment, but, I have to admit
> > > I'm fuzzy on what 'conceptual framework translation' actually _is_.
> > >
> > > What is being translated and into what language?
> > Genetics, when you get to a certain level of detail, requires the
> > language of chemistry, rather than that of biology (biochemistry,
> > microbiology, whatever -- you get the idea). Similar translations are
> > required whenever we shift between levels of explanation. It's the
> > different concepts that apply within them that distinguish between
> > levels.
> And now, for his next act, the amazing linguistic prestidigitator (or
> is that prestianaloguer?) Robin Faichney will fully explain self-
> conscious awareness using nothing more than the elementary laws
> of physics and the Periodic Table of Elements! Let's give him a
> round of applause, ladies and gents!
Chemisty and biology are differentiated by the levels of explanation with
which they deal, but both use objective methodology. With "self-conscious
awareness" subjectivity comes into the picture, and that is irreducible.
-- Robin Faichney Get your Meta-Information from http://www.ii01.org (CAUTION: contains philosophy, may cause heads to spin)
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