Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id NAA07546 (8.6.9/5.3[ref firstname.lastname@example.org] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from email@example.com); Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:47:08 +0100 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:13:47 +0100 To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: Re: The Tipping Point Message-ID: <20010417131347.A1691@ii01.org> References: <3AD891ED.20672.5777E8@localhost>; <20010415144928.B787@reborntechnology.co.uk> <3AD9C5BE.20188.2588FA@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <3AD9C5BE.20188.2588FA@localhost>; from email@example.com on Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 04:01:02PM -0500 From: Robin Faichney <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sender: email@example.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org
On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 04:01:02PM -0500, email@example.com wrote:
> On 15 Apr 2001, at 14:49, Robin Faichney wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 06:07:41PM -0500, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
> > Those 'individual grains' of yours are supported by other
> > grains, > which are supported by others, eventually involving the
> > entire pile.
> > And how, exactly, does that statement of the obvious support your
> > claim that individual grains are affected by the tipping point?
> As all is affected by each, each is in turn affected by all.
Surely each is directly affected only by its immediate neighbours, and
the tipping point phenomenon is entirely explicable in terms of such
> > There is a very clear train of causation, not only in the TV itself,
> > but even in your description, from internal components to picture and
> > sound. NOT vice versa! I think you'd be wise to drop this metaphor,
> > Joe.
> That is because, unlike the TV, we are dynamically recursive, and
> feed back (and forward). A TV cannot change the picture sent to it
> by a camera, but we can take actions which result in perceptual
> change, just as all perception involves some action.
So you agree it's not a very good metaphor.
-- Robin Faichney Get your Meta-Information from http://www.ii01.org (CAUTION: contains philosophy, may cause heads to spin)
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