Re: Cartoon meme

From: Chris Taylor (
Date: Mon 13 Feb 2006 - 20:06:37 GMT

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    This is why I said Bentham-style -- the point being the scope is not universal; they kill themselves for the greater good of a bounded group of people.

    And how they believe they are acting is closely related; moral in their frame in a Benthian sense, immoral by another.

    Wade Allsopp wrote:
    > I think its got zero to do with Benthan and utlilitarianism. The key
    > tenet onf
    > utilitarianism is universalism - the idea that it doesn't matter who you
    > make happy or sad,
    > you just need to add up all the happyness/sadness or utility.
    > Whatever is going through their mind, I think we can be pretty sure
    > that the bombers attribute little
    > or no value to the suffering and pain they cause to their victims and
    > their families, indeed the general
    > presumption seems to be the more Jews or non Muslims that are killed the
    > better.
    > I'm also pretty sure that they believe they are acting highly morally.
    > It's just that (I would guesss) 99%
    > of non muslims would disagree and maybe 80% (?) of muslims too.
    > Wade
    > On 2/13/06, *Chris Taylor* <
    > <>> wrote:
    > > Virgins or not, a few folks, even adults, seem to think blowing
    > yourself
    > > up and killing innocents is a good thing to do. To me, that
    > sounds like
    > > not knowing right from wrong, which qualifies as crazy in many
    > Western
    > > jurisdictions.
    > This is just a Bentham-style maximised benefit thing surely, not
    > immoral, just amoral..? Certainly not crazy (although I'd assert
    > rather misled).
    > Cheers, Chris.
    > ~~

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