From: Kenneth Van Oost (email@example.com)
Date: Mon 30 Jan 2006 - 08:17:41 GMT
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From: Kenneth Van Oost <firstname.lastname@example.org>
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Subject: Re: Sticky Memes/ to Chris
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> From: Chris Taylor <email@example.com>
> > To my mind there are two important meme sources for this, which
> > are (1) memes modelled from experience of the world ('proper'
> > memes) and (2) memes that pop into existence as a result of
> > experience alone, whether of the world, or of your sensory
> > experience of yourself. I imagine low-level (pre)motor programs
> > that are in essence (i.e. in 'substance') the equivalent of the
> > memes in your forebrain, but they live elsewhere and differ
> > somehow; memes that involve imagined action are somehow picked
> > up by premotor resident patterns (some sort of resonance is the
> > best I can offer) and passed on to become motor instructions.
> > Why couldn't the way to touch thumb to forefinger be a 'motor
> > meme' (abusing the meme name cos these things wold never be
> > copied -- like comparing email ('proper' memes) to machine code
> Science writes that ' spatial insight ' is an inborn thread.
> The Munduruku do not have words in their language to express
> geometric forms. To find their way in the woods surrounding them
> they do not use maps where with they could train their ability
> for spatial and geometric insight in the first place.
> In several tests it became clear that even without the proper
> definitions for geometric forms and spatial insight 66,8% knew
> what the answers were, what is more than 16,6 % higher than
> that the guys were just guessing away.
> The investigators speculate that knowledge about geometric
> concepts can be aproved by cultural mediums, like maps, but
> that a basic form is inbedded in the architecture of the human
> Would be the latter the ' pop-up- memes' and the former the
> proper ones !?
> If so, how would this relate to what we know now !?
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