From: Scott Chase (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Mon 02 May 2005 - 00:09:41 GMT
--- Chris Taylor <email@example.com> wrote:
> Variety, in the sense of standing heterozygosity, is
> in large populations. The evolutionary consequence
> of that is that the
> old persists way longer. Inertia. And I think I'd
> rather refer to my
> other mail than repeat the complement of that w.r.t.
> invasion of the
> novel (the 'no curry houses without curry lovers'
> chicken/egg argument).
> And of course the UK has had lots of input, from
> loads of places; the
> difference is that we tend to maintain less standing
> variety, which
> means whole-population shifts are easier.
The reggae influence on Brit music comes to mind. Much of what I recall "The Police" doing had some serious reggae flavours. And didn't Eric Clapton cover Bob Marley's "I Shot the Sheriff"?
India may have influenced both UK and Jamaican
cuisine, but Jamaica has influence the music of the UK
and other parts of the world.
BTW, after watching that nifty documentary called
"Bend it Like Beckham" it seems that Indians have a little hiphop thingy going on of their own. Who is this Beckham bloke anyway. Does he play quarterback or linebacker?
> > "Mogul", "pundit", "bungalow" readily come to
> mind. :-)
> To extend that point, there is no 'British' version
> of pyjamas (also
> Indian) or bungalow or jungle etc. QED.
> I would still assert that the current variety in the
> US is
> long-standing, as opposed to being the result of
> continual ingresses;
> mostly having come in at a time when the population
> was much smaller and
> less interconnected.
We have some variation. That's sorta what the whole East Coast vs. West Coast rap thang was all about
(well it had something to do with Tupac vs. Biggie too).
> > We have hiphop,
> > jazz, salsa, etc. There are Spanish only radio
> Only hip hop is even remotely new (and swept the
> world cf. my incredibly
> bloated other mail). And the hispanic thing seems
> more to be a shifting
> of the northern limit of central america into the US
> by mass movement
Yet "Hispanic" or "Latin American" doesn't equal
"Central American". There are other "Ibero-American" nationalities represented in the US besides Mexicans, Panamanians, Guatemalans etc. There's Brazilians
(included in Iberoamerican designation, but not technically in Hispanic or Latino categories), Argentines and Chileans etc...
Sure Mexican (or TexMex?) food seems to be the most
popular Hispanic food in the US overall but every once
in a while I get a hankering for a Cuban sandwich
(yummy) and some fried plantains. Haven't tried the Argentine yerba mate yet (cf. previous thread about that one...)
In the times I've watched Latin music videos, there
seems to be some variation where Mexican music often
seems like US-ian country music where other varieties
have the salsa, meringue, tango, and samba thingies
going on. In Miami Latin (specifically Cuban) sounds
have hybridized with hip hop (see DJ Lazaro Mendez who
thanks San Lazaro in his "DJ Laz" liner notes BTW).
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