From: Chris Taylor (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Tue 26 Apr 2005 - 20:09:40 GMT
Is all this more akin to horizontally transferring a few extra genes to
an E.coli strain to make it into a killer, rather than getting a brand
new killer strain de novo?
Bill Spight wrote:
> Dear Kate,
>>> Well, what the trumpet player said was a hint. While that triplet
>>> pattern is associated with swing, there are plenty of other
>>> swinging patterns (if you will), and, even more importantly, I
>>> could have played that pattern without swing. The performance as a
>>> whole might not have flopped, but I would have. Anyway, a hint is
>>> not a representation.
>> What the trumpet player said may not have fed directly into how you
>> then behaved, but he did nonetheless impart *some* information to
>> you. His words represented some information.
> Yes. But as I said, to the extent that it was a description of swing, it
> was a thin description.
>> What you did with that
>> information might not have been what he intended but that doesn't
>> mean it wasn't a representation in the first place.
> Well, since he intended something different from what he said, it's hard
> to say that what he said represented what he intended to transmit. And
> what he did transmit. I misspoke. A hint can be a representation, but
> not a representation of what is hinted at. That's what I had in mind.
> I'm not saying that what he said is not memetic. I'm saying that what he
> didn't say was the key cultural transmission. To be sure, for me to be
> able to take the hint required some experience, skill, and sensibility.
> But I had those already. Something else was transmitted, something
> unspoken, and, I submit, unrepresented.
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