From: Kenneth Van Oost (email@example.com)
Date: Sun 10 Apr 2005 - 15:02:12 GMT
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From: Bill Spight <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: Durkheim redux
> > But what if the individual ( personal) memeset is working totally on its
> > own, with no outside connection or attachment !?
> > What then !?
> Then we do not have memes, because memes are cultural.
<< Who says we don 't !?
In one sense of the definition, yes ! In one other, no !
A few years back I wrote something called A Solipsistic View on
Memetics, ( check the archives ), where I spoiled the idea that memes
( those units of info) are the kind of knowledge/ meaning I know to exist as the content of my own mind.
What is the rest ( reality/ culture/ society/ etc) must be in some way
part of that knowledge_ but than we must presuppose/ assume that a
reality/ a culture/ a society is ' really ' out there and is NOT a part of
my imaginition or part of the ( illusive) knowledge to create my world/
understanding/ experience/ culture/ society in the first place.
What I mean, from a solipsistic POV we can have memes without
a really existing, in the outside world, culture_ if you are willing to
bend the definition of meme a little bit.
On the other hand, what I hold within my nogging as experience/
knowledge/ meaning etc can be " memes ", personal and mine_
without any chance ever to come, or have the will to, inside my mind.
They evolve, is not THINKING itself such a " non- cultural " meme !?
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