From: Kate Distin (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Tue 22 Mar 2005 - 14:48:19 GMT
Bill Spight wrote:
> Dear Kate,
>> Sorry - I've used the word too many times in that paragraph,
>> referring to different things. My assumption is that the wheel being
>> copied was itself the result of a meme (whether written or held
>> mentally). Then I'm using the word "meme" again to refer to the
>> wheelwright's new representation of the wheel he's copying.
>> It occurs to me that again we may be using vocabulary at slight
>> cross-purposes here. As I've said above, I'm happy for
>> representations to be mental as well as physical (in the form of
>> blueprints or whatever).
> Well, before I contrasted the wheel as the realization of an idea with
> the blueprint as the representation of an idea. You seemed to agree
> that the blueprint was a representation, and hence, memetic.
> Now you talk about mental representations as well. In this case, that
> gets confused for me with the idea of which the blueprint is a
> representation. Is the blueprint a representation of a meme (mental
> representation)? Or is it an alternate representation of the same thing?
I'd drafted a rather complicated reply to you, but for some reason seemed to put things more succinctly in my response to Julio - perhaps you wouldn't mind looking there for a summary of my position. As a more direct reply to you: essentially I believe that the idea of which the blueprint is a representation can also be represented mentally. The same information can be carried in pen-and-paper and also in a brain.
> Do you hold that all ideas are mental representations?
Yes, I think I do.
> That there are mental representations for all cultural elements or
Yes - but qualified by a belief that there are different levels of
representation, with some being pretty primitive compared with others.
> Are we talking about prototypes or schemata? What about sensori-motor
I'm not sure what you mean by "prototypes or schemata". Could you
explain a bit further?
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