Re: testing 1,2,3..

From: Scott Chase (
Date: Tue 27 Jul 2004 - 17:13:33 GMT

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    --- Gene Doty <> wrote:
    > On Tuesday 27 July 2004 09:07, Lawrence deBivort
    > wrote:
    > > Indeed.
    > >
    > > We've been in the midst of updating our study of
    > the memes used in the 'war
    > > on terror.' Quite a bit of analysis, as the meme
    > wars are in full stride,
    > > with the attempt by the US administration to link
    > those with their memes on
    > > the invasion of Iraq.
    > >
    > > Cheers,
    > > Lawry
    > >
    > Or would that be the invade-Iraq memes trying to
    > link up with the
    > war-on-terror memes? I ask because I'm still trying
    > to grasp how to think and
    > talk about memes.
    > I'm interested in seeing your study; can you tell me
    > where or when it will be
    > available?
    One problem with this topic is that there was a group wide moratorium imposed a while back and one list member's privileges were curtailed due to discussion of the topic. This topic is still hotly debated on many forums I've participated in as lurker and discusser and from my experience things can go south fast.

    Yes, maybe objective discussion could take place, but with a politically charged topic where ideations about the "war on terror" and "war in Iraq" are discussed it often happens that the topic is carved by the pre-exiting bias of the discusser, no matter how objective they want to appear. What would happen here is that people would start using the idea of "memes" to promote their pre-existing mindset on the war(s). There would be those resembling Cheney-Rumsfeld and others trying to be Michael Moore and it just starts getting ugly. I can already tell by Lawry's choice of language what direction he will take and his once prolifically posting detractor could put forward no rejoinders.

    Meme wars? That's what we had just been through not long ago. Review the list history.

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