From: derek gatherer (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Mon 24 May 2004 - 08:01:13 GMT
--- Van oost Kenneth <email@example.com>
> _ IMO, the televoting was a scam,
Hmm... I don't like to speculate about that in the
absense of any evidence. I see no reason to believe
that any centralised vote rigging goes on.
> _ incredible is that many, like Croations, voted for
> a song of their
> neighbouring state ! Why !? Where does that sudden
> friendly gesture
> would come from !?
It comes from a kind of memetic reciprocal altruism,
and it's not so sudden, but has been building up over
decades (see my paper)
> Is there any
> proof that the counting
> of the votes was correct !?
Is there any proof it wasn't?
> Were the points than already giving to Norway by the
> Swedish audience
> or was it a last minute rescue effort to please the
> neighbour !?
The rules require the former, so if the latter, then
that was cheating. I'm not going to get into that,
since I think we'd need very compelling evidence to
make such a serious allegation.
> _This years voting was a complete farce, Monaco
> gives 10, or was it 12
> points to France,
Monaco has traditionally had a reciprocal vote
exchange with the UK, back in the 60s and 70s. They
also have not competed for some 20 years or so, so you
can't infer any pattern from a single year's votes.
>Derek, your 5 % pleasing
> attitude goes down the
> drain with this years full circus !!!
What's a "5% pleasing attitude"?
> _ and for all what it is worth, the voting showed
> that once a line was set in,
> ( Ukraine 1, Serbia 2, Greece 3, Turkey 4,...)
> others, IMO countries with no
> attachment to the four mentioned above, followed
But how can that be? The voting was done blind.
> Holland did gave points to Croatia, Sebrenicia comes
> to mind....
Wasn't Srebrenica in Bosnia?
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