Re: Looking for a name.

From: Chris Taylor (
Date: Thu 18 Mar 2004 - 13:20:48 GMT

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    I don't think it's controversial that captives can develop a soft spot for captors is it? That *is* different to pretending (and may occur in parallel even). Probably prison might do the same thing too.

    I'd also include battered/abused wives and kids in that too (as you do below, except I had to snip it because I think I got cropped on length twice now today -- perhaps there's a message there for me :\ ) -- they can often list good points about the abuser (especially when defending them to the police who hate attending these things and usually just want to get it over with anyway). However I think it is wildly wrong to say that *that* is why they stay. They are usually in terror, and won't leave because they think the abuser *will* find them and *will* harm/kill them (and for kids sometimes it's not practical, or even conceivable given their lack of experience). And thanks to the top notch social provision in the sceptered isle, often the abuser *does* find them and *does* harm/kill them. I was looking for some hard stats but I need to get on really so here's a good beeb report so let's draw a line with that on eh? CB wouldn't produce a motivation to stay alone, fear of death or serious injury to self or child. Originally I thought your CB stuff was based on the C standing for capture, which by defintion means held
    *against your will* or you ain't captive.

    And Patty Hearst was a spoilt little rich kid (like the Manson WASP kids), devoid of causes or concerns they look for excitement. Lets bear in mind we have exactly one witness to their internal states. I'm always suspicious of the easily hypnotised anyway -- too suggestible by half...

    Cheers, Chris.

    Keith Henson wrote:
    > At 05:23 AM 17/03/04 -0500, Aaron wrote:
    > snip
    >> Hi Keith.
    >> I was one of those who sent you some compliments on your
    >> article, and the capture bonding hypothesis. It contained
    >> some innovative hypotheses that strike me as well-formed
    >> from within the theoretical framework of evolutionary
    >> psychology. However, I did not mean my comments to indicate
    >> that I considered the hypotheses you offer as being
    >> confirmed. There are all sorts of reasons people don't send
    >> all the critiques that come to mind. For one thing, writing
    >> it all out can easily amount to a paper in its own right,
    >> and perhaps even a longer paper.

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