Re: the meme/brain problem

From: Steven Thiele (
Date: Wed 04 Feb 2004 - 22:42:02 GMT

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    At 01:49 PM 4/02/2004 -0800, you wrote:
    >Bruce recognizes the importance of case studies and requests one definitive
    >example. He also insists that we narrow the field by identifying where,
    >specifically, the memetics model applies. I fully agree. I think the chief
    >reason for the failure of memetics to be widely accepted as a science is its
    >attempt to reduce all of culture to a memetic struggle for survival (and the
    >corresponding illusion that this can render the study of culture into a
    >"hard" science).

    Yes, and the reason for this reduction is simple. It is supported by those who believe that all of biology is a genetic struggle for survival. So as soon as memes are proposed as analagous to genes, the automatic belief is that 'all of culture is a memetic struggle for survival'. Since the first belief if dubious, the second is even more so.

    The idea that memetics is more scientific than social science is baseless - neither are scientifically oriented.

    Steven Thiele

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