Re: meme as catalytic indexical

From: Van oost Kenneth (
Date: Sun 25 Jan 2004 - 19:35:42 GMT

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      From: M Lissack
      The micro behaviour of the individuals needs to be credible. That is they need to reflect patterns of behaviour that third parties [note 3] would accept as being really possible. Thus behaviour based on strong a priori assumptions (e.g. utility optimisation) or unmodified off-the-shelf algorithms (e.g. Genetic Algorithms) would not be suitable.
      << But how would you account for such credibility if whatever third party has its own prejudices

      to count for in the first place !?

      No individual life can survive entirely bereft of meaning ( and purpose) and a view that wants to

      be the very bias for acceptance of a mechanism like memetics can 't simply ignore the

      nurtured and natural ( selected for or not) traits of the human beings involved ( investigators,

      performers, participants and perceivers, etc).

      For memetics to be accepted you need far more than just composed information messages

      of or within the mind_ memetics is all about human psychology and therefor you need a model

      of which that is part.

      Libertarism, like Nozick has formulated it, where hyperliberalism almost equals anarchism

      and where nothing is far more important than the individual_ must in that regard be part of

      the model characteristics and also things like cultural/ social ideology, biology, history etc..

      A buddhist applying memetics for explaining how we reached Zen through maintaining our

      motorcycle will be quite something else than me applying memetical understandings in

      my work with allochtons.

      How any third party can be that objective in their comments, speculation,description,etc

      without involving the obvious facts of their own world and ideas, beats me....



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