RE: The Redefinition of Memes: Ascribing Meaning to an Empty Cliché

From: Keith Henson (
Date: Tue 09 Dec 2003 - 02:28:40 GMT

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    At 02:32 PM 08/12/03 +0000, Vincent wrote:


    >Besides, its central point is wrong anyway, meme continues to work as a
    >marker for debates about cultural evolution and the transmission of cultural
    >traits in the same way that rugby still works for both victorious world
    >champion teams displaying incredible ability, like the England team, and
    >bunches of hopeless, whiney scaredy-cat cry-baby losers like the Australian


    Robert Wright's book on cultural evolution, _Non-Zero_, probably reached 100 or 1000 times as many people have ever read this list. It has hundreds of places where it uses "meme," every one of them in the replicating information pattern, "element of culture" sense I defend.

    I was amused by another well known list member who commented in private email that he couldn't make heads or tails of what Michael was trying to say.

    Recently in one of the chat rooms associated with the church of the virus, someone mentioned Engfish. Try it in Google.

    Keith Henson

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