From: John Croft (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Mon 08 Sep 2003 - 15:50:04 GMT
> I also note the Michael Mooresque moan about
> incarceration rates and black
> Americans. The simple and horrible truth is that the
> incarceration rates
> reflect the offending rates perfectly. You does the
> crime , you does the
> The Americans have enjoyed an enormous drop in
> crime over the last 10
> years. The recent peaceful blackout in New York is
> an excellent example of
> how much things have improved. Simply contrast the
> riots in 1977 with last
> months peaceful and relatively crime free blackout.
> That great society is defeating crime, we ought to
> imitating their
Interesting that during this time the number of people
incarcerated rose from 200,000 in the 1970's to 2.3
million people today, with a further 1.8 million out
on early release schemes and parole. You surely
cannot be arguing for fifteen fold increase in the
crime rates since 1970?
The chief reasons for the increase in crime rates seem
to have been due to the privatisation of the industry
and a powerful lobby in politics to "get tough on
crime" even when crime figures were improving.
Regarding the figures for black imprisonment, it is
true that the figures are disproportionate. It is
interesting that most states now spend more on
incarcerating their black male youth than educating
them. It is also interesting that figures show that
fewer blacks than whites are represented by top
lawyers, more are encouraged to plead guilty on
promises of leniency. The rate of offending black
versus white is not the same rate as the rate of
incarceration. Blacks tend to attract more custodial
sentencies, for longer periods than whites found
guilty of the same crime.
We have similar circumstances facing our Australian
Aboriginal populations in Australia.
Hope this helps explain the situation better.
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