Re: Meme definition (was: birthdays)

From: Wade T. Smith (
Date: Thu 19 Jun 2003 - 14:23:25 GMT

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    On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 09:27 AM, memetics-digest wrote:

    > But if you restrict your 'model' to fishes and wishes

    Ah, no, I am not restricting my model to fishes and wishes, or even to fishes with wishes, I am acknowledging that the venue does not need to include the performer or his mind at all- after all, where are you and what are you doing when you watch Finding Nemo?

    You are in a movie theatre (venue) watching (being an observer of) a movie (a special case of performance, specifically, an animated film).

    > Unless there are multiple minds with different memes (not just facts)
    > in them, there is nothing that their interaction can replicate,
    > regardless of external environment or venue, or even any way that they
    > can meaningfully interact at all.

    And, guess what?, it _is_ meaningfully interacting with you, and, guess what, there ain't another mind in the place. Oh, you say there is.... gee, they are all in that artifact? Pixar thanks you.... So, you can't say 'regardless of external venue', can you?

    In point of fact, an animated movie is so precise an example of a venue that I'm shocked I haven't used it before....

    - Wade

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