Re: back to basics

From: Wade T. Smith (
Date: Wed 28 May 2003 - 23:11:24 GMT

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    On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 06:28 PM, Lawrence wrote:

    > The structure provides the substance -- the idea -- with
    > the wherewithal to spread itself and defend itself.

    This is very in line with what I imagine the cultural venue to be- the structure that provides the wherewithal to spread and defend the performance- although, defend and spread is perhaps more linearly correct.

    It is also where I see the effort of maintaining, even introducing, the performance (the meme) to be focused, and in this way, although the performance (the meme) is not 'engineered' in the traditional meaning of 'constructed from designed specifications', the expected performance is statistically encouraged, often by making aberrant performances more difficult to achieve. One cannot bounce a ball under water, so to speak.

    The main problem with this is its propagandist approach, in that creating venues for expectations of performances is not a clear and clean choice field for the participants. Of course, all cultures are such propagandist venues to some degree, with the sole exception of science. But, in an enlightened excursion within a well-designed and fairly elaborated structure, choices become more willingly just. This is one of the great attractions of such problems as the Prisoners' Dilemma for memetic processes, although much time is spent sifting through to the statistical end, if ever it occurs, but, we have lots of time, don't we? (Not according to Wilson, we don't, but, who's listening to him while we drive our SUV's to the whole food market?)

    The greatest good for the greatest number, of course, lets a good third suffer vastly.

    But it's okay, there will be more. The first principle of most cultures is to be fruitful and multiply.

    All of this, of course, relates to your quest for the perfect State.

    - Wade

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