From: Lawrence DeBivort (email@example.com)
Date: Wed 28 May 2003 - 15:44:17 GMT
I have been for months avoiding participating in the 'definition of a meme'
and 'functional structure of a meme' threads, feeling that there were others
more qualified to do so and quite content with my own pragmatical
definitions and the pragmatic results that they permit.
But every now and then I dip into a thread to see if there is progress, and
here, this morning, awaits this delicious quote.... Tautological it is, and
I am left wondering what the author's definition of a meme, itself, might
be. I agree with Wade's observation that the definition assumes the
existence of memes, which is the very thing that is being debated in these
BTW, I fully accept the existence of memes and utilize them. So if you guys
end up disproving the existence memes of come up with a radically different
definition, I am going to be way up the creek and left with replicable
phenomena for which there is, apparently, no linguistic representation. I
had better gird my Dawkinsian loins and be ready to come up with another
nifty name for the phenomena, in case they turn out to be not-memes.
Cheers to all,
> -----Original Message-----
> From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com]On Behalf
> Of Wade T. Smith
> Sent: Wed, May 28, 2003 11:08 AM
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Subject: back to basics
> On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 09:01 AM, Richard wrote:
> > That's the definition of memetics.
> "Memetics can be defined as an approach trying to model the evolution
> of memes." (http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/MEMES.html)
> Indeed, the vicious circle involved in the definition of memetics
> requires that the meme be not only present, but fully accounted for.
> And, IMHO, it ain't.
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