Date: Tue 27 May 2003 - 20:22:33 GMT
> On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 03:47 PM, memetics-digest wrote:
> > The cognitive gestalt is comprised of knowledge, memories and ideas
> > that have been absorbed [snip] over the course of a lifetime:
> Granted, if you will grant my ellipsis. I see no reason to assign
> 'evolving' to any internal cognitive functioning.
> > the
> > communicable subset of this cognitive set comprises the memeplexure
> > of the individual (memeplexure - the totality of memes and
> > memeplexes within a particular cognitive gestalt).
> No reason to grant you this supposition, as, again, it is definitional
> hand-waving. There is no reason to assign any cognitive functions to a
> meme, and no reason to demand that 'communicable subset' has any
> meaning outside of this hand-waving.
There is every logical reason to conclude that if set X resides completely in container Y, that X's subset Z must necessarily also completely reside in Y. This is logically entailed.
> > It is illogical and inconsistent to on
> > the one hand, affirm the presence of this set within the mind and,
> > on the other hand, to deny the cognitive presence of a necessary
> > subset (the subset of communicable knowledge, memories and ideas) of
> > that set.
> It is not illogical if one does not divide cognitive functioning into
> sets and subsets, and it is sheerly illogical to call a subset
> 'necessary'. There is no reason to so divide cognitive functioning,
> and I'm waiting for you to show _any_ proof that there is.
Reality. Just as it is obvious that we can communicate some of our experiences via language, it is equally apodictically self-evident that we cannot stuff our private sense-perceptions in the heads of another. Clearly, both communicable and incommunicable cognitive elements exist; together, (since there can be no third term of both communicable and incommunicable, or neither communicable nor incommunicable, those being self-contradictory, thus every cognitive element is EITHER communicable OR incommunicable), these two must therefore comprise the total cognitive gestalt.
> "I write to discover what I know."
Descriptive philosophy consists of carving up the world at its natural joints.
> - Wade
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