Re: never wanting to grow up

From: rhiggins7 (
Date: Mon 26 May 2003 - 09:50:59 GMT

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    > Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 12:47:29 -0700
    > From: "Dace" <>
    > Subject: Re: never wanting to grow up
    > > From: "Wade T. Smith" <>
    > >
    > >
    > > This would seem to be a proposal that all memes are false.
    > Not necessarily. A meme could be true by accident. What you
    > wish to believe may turn out to be correct. Also, memes can include works
    > of art which, even if they're fictional, may express a deeper truth.
    > can exploit our need to gain a sense of wholeness and other positive
    > The main thing is that memes pass from mind to mind under their own power,
    > whereas ideas pass among us via our conscious power of reason.

    Is this belief held by this memetic community at large? Ideas can't be memes and visa versa? the disitinction here seems extremely arbitrary and contrived to propogatte an "Us vs Them" belief structure within the community. And why would the fact that a Meme is true or false have any impact on how it is replicates? Only the "Belief" in the truethfullness of a meme will impact its viralents. Many of our most deepest held beleifs about science and reason are essencially subjective memes but we believe them to be true. More disturbing in this post is the implied belief that somehow "it is those awfull lying Memes that supress Our great Ideas from changing the world".

    I wonder if anyones got a good Idea on how to counter this Meme.

    Ray Higgins If "Believing is See" then could it be that
          for each of us "Believing is being"

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