From: Van oost Kenneth (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Thu 22 May 2003 - 19:24:08 GMT
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> > > Sorry, Kenneth, but ALL spiders of web-weaving species produce silk,
> > > while within the human family there are imbibers and teetotalers.
> Silk production is spider nature; booze-making is human culture. The
> difference is as stark as the difference between genes and memes.
Sorry Joe, but for me this is fundamental !
You make a difference between spider nature and human culture.
Without wishing to fall in endless philosophical chatter I do want
to point out that nature doesn 't have a need to compartmentalize.
Besides it stimulates prejudice and misguidings.
I am not against the terms themselves, I suppose those can make
it easy for people to form their lives, but to pretent that the spider
has a nature and the human a culture is intellectual chit- chat.
It is, by far all defintion and agreed upon by consensus....
There are reasons to attempt to say that booze- making is a part
of our ' nature ', social and cultural motivated and surrounded, no
doubt, but it has and had it reasons within our ' culture '.
Still booze- making rituals are very important to a lot of people
around the world, it is their fascination for the spiritual that makes
them do it....
There is more than one way to talk about a nature or a culture,
there is more than one way to be a spider or to be man.
If there should only be one, nature would be a dull place....
Spider nature is seen from our, human cultural perspective,
but both are part of nature, which in terms is a greater collec-
tive, spiders and human are only little ' individuals ' within the
greater of nature.
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