Date: Thu 22 May 2003 - 02:06:39 GMT
> on 5/21/03 7:11 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org at email@example.com
> >> Applying a biological analogy to human culture and communication
> >> does not magically transfer biology's explanatory efficacy to
> >> psychology. It gives the illusion of understanding but not the
> >> power. It's a con.
> > We DO know that information that Jack had that Jill did not have was
> > transferred from jack to Jill. We know the semiotics and the
> > genetic epistemology of the sigh-referent associations, and we know
> > the power of language to allow these referents to be intentionally
> > arranged in novel and meaningful strings which are coded in a
> > commonly understood language.
> Semiotics and genetic epistemology are interesting, but fall short on
> details and mechanisms. This won't do.
Together with hhenomenology and hermeneutics, they form the basis of current philosophical thought - the very things that ground the sciences, which cannot be self-grounding.
> > . . . . If that is not information transmission, then it
> > does not exist, and you are simply indulging in a solipsistic dream
> > when you type your objections to your alter ego. The 'how' is
> > basically known, requiring only fine-tuning, as is the 'where' (the
> > temporal lobes and association cortex and the mouth-ear nexus
> > (hijacked by a second- order mutation, according to Philip
> > Lieberman, from the hand-eye coordination system), including Broca's
> > and Wernicke's areas and their connection via the arcuate
> > fasciculus; the 'what' is rationally indisputable.
> All of which is to say that you can't do what I asked you to do. You
> have little idea of what's going on. --
More than you do, appparently, for you seem unwilling to admit that ANYTHING necessary or essential is going on in there; even though it is surpassingly obvious that what goes on between cannot proceed in the absence of what goes on within.
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