From: Keith Henson (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Thu 22 May 2003 - 00:14:49 GMT
At 01:03 PM 21/05/03 -0500, joe wrote:
>But Jack would not be eating the tomato (just as Jill did not previous to
>its safety being communicated) if he did not know it was nutritious
>rather than toxic. And this knowing is a cognitively internal meme thing,
>that Jack not only remembers (this makes it a memory) but is able to
>communicate to Jill (this makes it a member of the memory subclass
>known as memes).
>But that information IS the meme; the communication is just the
>proliferation of it.
Or transmission to use an alternate word.
>Memories do not all have to be memes, just as any
>writing does not have to be a letter, but if it can be mailed it becomes a
>letter (not if it is actually mailed). Genes are genes even if they are
>latent and not expressed (recessive). Memories are latent memes if
>they can be communicated, and active memes if attempts to
>communicate them are actually made. If the attempts are unsuccessful,
>this does not mean that they are not memes, just that they are not very
Or unlucky ones. Clearly stated though.
Nice posting. I appreciate it, but there is a point where it becomes clear
that your logical simple model is not going to penetrate.
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