Re: transmission

From: Scott Chase (
Date: Wed 21 May 2003 - 04:36:04 GMT

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    >From: "Wade T. Smith" <>
    >Subject: Re: transmission
    >Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 13:46:39 -0400
    >On Tuesday, May 20, 2003, at 12:35 PM, Joe wrote:
    >>I call them memes if their meaning is transmitted from one person to
    >You strangle yourself wrapping this meaning and this meme together.
    >Define 'meaning is transmitted'. Simple fact is, you can't, and then the
    >hands start waving, and the meme is called up from the mystical depths.
    >Call them what you will. You have to show them to us first.
    >Otherwise, they are pink unicorns in your garden.
    Careful there when invoking the pink unicorn hypothesis (versus its rivals the beme and meme-ory), because that one can cut both ways. Before you know it both Joe and you could have the rug swept from under you both as the pink unicorn gallops triumphantly away.

    I think it was Nietzsche who said one must philosophize with a hammer as one tries to shatter the idols of the age while they recede into the twilight. The beme and meme-ory are both idols making Joe and you idolaters
    (*gotzendammerung, oder: wie man mit dem hammer philosophiert*)!

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