Date: Sun 18 May 2003 - 20:11:27 GMT
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> > Sorry, Kenneth, but ALL spiders of web-weaving species produce silk,
> > while within the human family there are imbibers and teetotalers.
> No need to say sorry though !
> I understand, but IMO, still it doesn 't matter, my argument wasn 't
> sloppy. Silk can be the result of web- weaving spider species as
> drinking beer, tea, applejuice, milk is the result of a cultural force
> trying to maintain its continuance.
> Like Wade argues, and I agree related to the above, the spiders
> performance and the human drinking habits are both within their own
> cultural template, part of the venue and are the activities controlled
> by the parameters of these venues. When the time is ripe, nature's
> culture commands and demands and the spider weaves a web, and nature
> expects a full committent. If the spider misses out its target, it
> will starve. This is analogous to our drinking habits, culture
> demands/ commands the exis- tence of bars and tearooms and culture
> expects that some people will be drunk and be alcoholists and that
> others will bake cakes and will set the kettle on the fire.
> It is not that, IMO, when one argument stems from the very basic urge
> like instinct for the spider and that another stems from within our
> cultural/ social intercourse, both are different at their
> fundamentals. The effects and the appearance of those effects are IMO
> the continuance of things that are ' natural ', spider webs and human
> cultures are both, within their own apparatus, results. Silk and
> beerdrinking habits are cultural deman- ded venues where from culture
> expects performances.
Silk production is spider nature; booze-making is human culture. The difference is as stark as the difference between genes and memes.
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