Date: Thu 15 May 2003 - 17:08:42 GMT
> On Thursday, May 15, 2003, at 09:42 AM, Philip wrote:
> > Even in the performance-only model of memetics, performance IS
> > abstract.
> No, it is quite and rather concrete. It is observable and measurable.
> It is the interpretation, by culture and by the observers, that is
> abstract, until they decide to perform.
> > Provided that the members of the set are sufficiently alike you'd do
> > humanity a big favor to refer to the meme by a single name: memeA)
> When the performances are sufficiently alike, we have a cultural
> continuity, what Joe would say is a relational meaning.
> In the performance model, there is no continuity of 'meme' necessary,
> but, just like a spider makes a very similar web every time yet
> different due to the parameters of the environment, culture commands
> the venue, controlling the parameters of performance. Every meme is
> unique, but may, just like the spider's web, have enough relational
> attributes to be called a 'comedy', or a 'waltz', every time, and this
> is a marker of memetic stability.
> Continuity can absolutely be dependent and perceived as continuing
> upon discontinuous entities. And culture is a great example of this
> mechanism, as is evolution and, indeed, the human body.
> And once this is acknowledged, the continuous entity demanded by the
> memeinthemind model becomes specious.
Deciding to drink one's thousandth beer is very different from a spider following a hard-wired instinctual program to weave its thousandth web; once again, one falls into the trap of implicitly denying conscious self- awareness and choice at the very moment one is exercising them.
> - Wade
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