From: Wade T. Smith (
Date: Wed 14 May 2003 - 15:30:53 GMT

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    n 1: the act of sending a message; causing a message to be transmitted
    [syn: transmittal, transmitting]

    That humans transmit is self-evident. That information is present in the messages being transmitted is also not in dispute.

    But what _is_ in dispute, and it's not a skeptical position, it's a straight up logical and procedural one, is whether or not the information being transmitted gets transmitted in toto from one human to another, and it is my contention that, since there is no direct means of this transfer (i.e. telepathy is not an agent in this universe), the information in one mind is, at best, a reasonably accurate representation of the information in another's, and the maintenance of the accuracy of this representation is the duty of culture, as well as a function of a mind in a society of minds.

    Thus, I claim, and I see no refute, that saying 'information is being passed from one mind to another' is a grossly simplistic way to describe the actual events, agents, objectives, participants, media, and processes that go into _any_ cultural (indeed, any interpersonal) interaction.

    And it is a simplicity that dumbs down any further effort to explore memetics, if not halt it altogether.

    - Wade

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