Re: memetics-digest V1 #1337

From: Van oost Kenneth (
Date: Sun 11 May 2003 - 08:33:45 GMT

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    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Henson" <> Kenneth,
    > >There must be ' something ' being transmitted though, no matter what_
    > >you can 't get performance, obedience, classification, sight, acceptance,
    > >belief,... without a certain kind of transmission of ' information ' even
    > >though the transmission will/ can is abstract/ an abstraction.
    > Correct.
    > An example would be a *non* performance model. 100k years ago, people
    > would tell other people in the tribe there was a bear in the berry
    > patch! This was certainly a meme, which would in short order spread out
    > everyone in the tribe. It resulted in non-performance of the act of going
    > to the berry patch.


    Yes that is the kind of thing I had in mind ! There is a kind of communication without saying anything_ the saying that a bear was wondering the berry patch would have evoked all kind of thoughts, non- performed attitudes and behavior. A bear in the berry patch would certainly have evoked anxiety amongst the dwellers, now knowing that one of their major food supply areas was jeopar- dized and maybe lost for the whole of the season. All memebers went ' in spirit '/ non- performantive to the berry patch and constituted their own opinions about the damage and consequences.

    All the different kinds of information non- said and non- performed by the speaker will provoke non- said and non- performed behavior etc by the observer/ listener, and all at all times are due to the interpretation through their own perceptions and due to the illocutionary acts of the speaker_ that is to say it has force, it informes the other memebers of the tribe of the bear being in berry patch with a certain tone, attitude, feeling, motive and/ or intention. Never forget that atleast we must consider the fact that the speaker didn 't give all the sufficient/ necessary info and that he could be truthfull or not. It is up to the other memebers to ' understand '. It is IMO the informative astraction that makes the MEME.



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