Re: memetics-digest V1 #1313

From: Scott Chase (
Date: Tue 11 Mar 2003 - 02:45:07 GMT

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    >From: "Grant Callaghan" <>
    >Subject: Re: memetics-digest V1 #1313
    >Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:08:20 -0800
    >Sixty years ago my father taught me a series of moves on the chess board
    >with which I could mate an opponent in three moves. He called it "fools
    >mate." Now I'm teaching it to my grandson. If I haven't been carrying
    >that meme around in my head for the past 60 years, how can I use it and
    >teach it today? Sure, I passed it on by performing it, but I recovered the
    >gambit from my mind and I think that's pretty good proof that it's been
    >sitting in there waiting to be used for the past 60 years. I didn't
    >recover it from a book or by watching someone else do it recently. Most of
    >what I know how to do is stored in the same way, waiting to be used or
    >passed to someone else. If it's not stored in the mind or the brain, where
    >is it?
    Well you've remembered a series of chess moves. I'd call this a memory (not a meme-ory). Wade might point to the performance of the moves as a beme, but I'd, in my curmudgeony agnostic way probably make funny faces at this stance too. I see a memory (engrammatic or mnemonic storage) of chess moves (a behavioral repertoire. With nice fancy words like memory and repertoire I'd thing that meme-ory and beme sound a little bland, like artificial sweetener might taste.

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