Re: Memes For Peace-at-any-Price

From: Keith Henson (
Date: Mon 10 Mar 2003 - 05:31:12 GMT

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    At 11:21 PM 09/03/03 -0500, Scott wrote:

    >This would be topical how? I hate being Miss Manners here, believe me I
    >do, but if I'm enacting a self-imposed moratium on the Iraq topic for sake
    >of the list I'd hope others would follow suit. Otherwise, it's no holds barred.

    It certainly could be warped around to memetics or evolutionary psychology with relatively little effort. Or even to catastrophe theory involving competing war/no war memes.

    It could be seen from the EP angle of Bush seeking status. One way to improve your status (and humans, even the president, never has enough) is to display superior judgment. This is especially true if you take an unpopular line and it works. (Something I did not long ago in another context.)

    It is a high risk business though. Backing a failed meme set results in near instant disgrace. Even if you are right others are resentful for showing their judgment was not as good as yours.

    The other interesting meme related matter to watch is support for fighting inside Iraq. The classic example of a meme sea change would be Japan after the two A bombs were dropped and the Emperor talked on the radio. The country went almost overnight from fight to the death meme set to memes for full cooperation with the former enemy.

    But I agree Scott, you have to get under the superficials.

    Keith Henson

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